{"id":1478,"date":"2014-05-23T21:54:49","date_gmt":"2014-05-23T20:54:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/?p=1478"},"modified":"2014-05-26T21:37:16","modified_gmt":"2014-05-26T20:37:16","slug":"insert-___-here-new-connections-for-an-old-mixer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/de\/2014\/05\/insert-___-here-new-connections-for-an-old-mixer\/","title":{"rendered":"Insert ___ here &#8211; new connections for an old mixer"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"shariff\" data-title=\"Insert ___ here &#8211; new connections for an old mixer\" data-info-url=\"http:\/\/ct.de\/-2467514\" data-backend-url=\"https:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/plugins\/shariff-sharing\/backend\/index.php\" data-temp=\"\/tmp\" data-ttl=\"60\" data-service=\"gftr\" data-services='[\"googleplus\",\"facebook\",\"twitter\",\"reddit\",\"info\"]' data-image=\"\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/de\/2014\/05\/insert-___-here-new-connections-for-an-old-mixer\/\" data-lang=\"de\" data-theme=\"colored\" data-orientation=\"horizontal\"><\/div><p>Look: My little old Behringer Eurorack MX1604A mixing console has four insert jacks now, just what you need for a four-channel compressor. After a day spent with sick kids, a little soldering and drilling felt just right.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140523-211225-76345851.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140523-211225-76345851.jpg\" alt=\"20140523-211225-76345851.jpg\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nI have been shopping on eBay. Looking for a reverb to go with my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/2014\/03\/reclaiming-the-matrix-new-life-for-an-old-beast-via-ipad-control\/\">rediscovered Oberheim Matrix synth<\/a>, I acquired a rack containing a Lexicon MX, and a four-channel compressor. Lucky me.<br \/>\nThis is when I noted that my mixer has no inserts.<br \/>\nWell, I fixed it. Took me about 3 hours. You need: 4 6.3mm stereo jacks, shielded 3-wire cables, soldering iron and being prepared to use it, a 12mm steel drill.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The insert jacks sitting before the unmodified mixer console.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140523-220000-79200730.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140523-220000-79200730.jpg\" alt=\"20140523-220000-79200730.jpg\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nThe opened housing. There is enough space on the back plate for connectors, about 40x60mm. Unfortunately, that is not quite enough to fit a row of four with the type of jacks I used.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140524-104043-38443803.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140524-104043-38443803.jpg\" alt=\"20140524-104043-38443803.jpg\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nOkay, marked the way out (and back in). But where do we connect it?<\/p>\n<h2>Role model: Successor schematics<\/h2>\n<p>Geeks are lazy. I could have spent half a day taking apart the mixer and drawing a schematic, but I asked Google and came up with this: <a href=\"http:\/\/elektrotanya.com\/behringer_mx1804x.pdf\/download.html\">the schematics for the Behringer Eurorack MX 1804X<\/a>. This is a later model, not quite the same device as my 1604A mixer. The details of the circuitry differ, although they are closely related. And the X version DOES have inserts. So the first thing is to use those as a model:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140523-222702-80822336.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140523-222702-80822336.jpg\" alt=\"20140523-222702-80822336.jpg\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nTerminal 2 is Signal Send, Terminal 1 is Signal Return. &#8222;T&#8220; is for the tip of the 6.3mm stereo plug, &#8222;R&#8220; is for the ring; the v-shaped lines mark the actual connection when a plug is inserted, the little arrowheads mark the switches that are closed when no plug is in the jack. (So it is: Tip &#8211; connecting to terminal 2 &#8211; is Send, Ring &#8211; terminal 1 &#8211; is Return, the plug&#8217;s base connects to GND.)<\/p>\n<p>Note the 120R resistor in the Signal Send path &#8211; when a Mono plug is inserted into the Stereo socket, it would short-circuit Send if it was wired directly to the connector; the resistor protects the mixer circuitry. (I used a 100 Ohm resistor.)<br \/>\nThis is my version of it:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140523-223049-81049183.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140523-223049-81049183.jpg\" alt=\"20140523-223049-81049183.jpg\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nUse shielded cable; I cut up an old USB connection. The cable shield is connected only at the PCB end. I&#8217;ve added a bit of shrink sleeve to isolate the shield against short circuits. In this picture you can see why this is necessary; I had to reopen the mixer to fix Channel 1. The holes for the jacks were easily drilled .<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140524-104322-38602239.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140524-104322-38602239.jpg\" alt=\"20140524-104322-38602239.jpg\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>The Art of Insertion: Finding the right spot<\/h2>\n<p>Where do I cut? Having a look at the block diagram, I decided to cut right after the 3-way EQ.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140524-110106-39666700.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140524-110106-39666700.jpg\" alt=\"20140524-110106-39666700.jpg\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nComparing with the schematics of the more recent model, you may have noticed that Behringer placed the insert before the EQ, and I was originally going to imitate that, but tracing the equivalent point I found that it wasn&#8217;t a good place to cut the signal path. I also used a clue &#8211; the Behringer engineers prepared a jumper where you can reconfigure AUX2 for a channel from a post-fader (FX send) to a pre-fader (Monitor send) signal. Tracing the pre-fader signal insertion point, I found my way here:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140524-105554-39354598.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140524-105554-39354598.jpg\" alt=\"20140524-103435-38075463.jpg\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nLook at the point marked by the little black arrow &#8211; this is a capacitor (&#8222;Kondensator&#8220;) in the signal path pre-fader. The left soldering point is connected to the PRE jumper mentioned above, the right terminal &#8211; before the capacitor &#8211; is my insertion point. It is connected to a couple of SMD resistors &#8211; marked red in the photo &#8211; and we are going to cut the connection to the capacitor, solder the Return Signal to it (green wire), and solder the red Send Signal wire to the resistor (&#8222;Widerstand&#8220;) to the right just above.<br \/>\nCutting up the signal path now, soldering the red Send Signal wire to the right capacitor terminal next.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140523-225317-82397932.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140523-225317-82397932.jpg\" alt=\"20140523-225317-82397932.jpg\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nCut up the PCB line. Solder in the wires to the jacks. Repeat. Test. Be happy.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140523-225417-82457709.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.untergeek.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/20140523-225417-82457709.jpg\" alt=\"20140523-225417-82457709.jpg\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Is this how they do it?<\/h2>\n<p>I&#8217;ve tested the modification, using my Korg R3 synth in vocoder mode as an insert effect. It works, although return levels are low.<br \/>\nPlease remember that this solution is just a lazy geek&#8217;s solution after a very long day. It might have looked different if I had more knowledge of the mixer&#8217;s circuits (or, more generally speaking, of analog audio circuitry). If you have inside knowledge of Behringer mixers, you will have a dozen better ideas about how to do this. 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